In this episode we sit down with Michael Shapiro, Apollo’s co-head of Capital Markets and Syndicate, to unpack what it really takes to engineer a successful IPO in today’s market. Drawing on Apollo’s deep experience across public and private markets—including recent IPOs like Lottomatica in Italy, Sun Country in the US, and Ventia in Australia —Michael explains how the firm builds IPO readiness from the moment of investment, why purchase price matters more than ever, and how to turn complex businesses into compelling public stories.

We dive into the practical playbook Apollo uses: early investor engagement, dry-run earnings reports, capital structure optimization, and building credibility long before the listing. Michael also challenges old assumptions about investor categories, advocating for a focus on fundamentals over labels like “long-only” or “hedge fund.” Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes the importance of predictability, simplicity, and investor alignment to maximize post-IPO performance.

Whether you’re a company preparing to go public, an investor evaluating IPOs, or simply fascinated by how public markets work, this episode offers a masterclass in IPO execution from one of the industry’s top capital markets practitioners.

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Disclaimer: The discussion in this episode is not financial advice, nor an investment recommendation, nor a solicitation to buy or sell any financial instruments or an offer for financial services or any other transaction. The information contained in the recording has no contractual value and is intended for informational purposes only. Amundsen Investment Management and the participants in this podcast may have holdings in the companies being discussed. Any views expressed are those of the guests only, and not of Amundsen Investment Management or Apollo Global Management.